dark_law ([info]dark_law) wrote in [info]neworleans,

* Support the Danziger 7 *

    Please Support the Seven NOPD Officers that are facing indictment and trial for doing their job. They stayed during Katrina and now the System has turned their back on them, with the DA calling them rabid dogs with a gun.  DA Eddie Jordan is out to make his biggest political move yet - wait, he did that when he fired every white employee at the DA's office and got sued in Federal Court.  Imagine doing your job, during Hurricane Katrina and acting approapriately, acting within reason, and acting to preserve not only your own life, but the lives of others...and being indicted for Murder for it.  With no bond.  You will sit in prison until the trial is OVER, regardless of verdict.
    If nothing else, support their right to innocence until PROVEN guilty. The City of New Orleans and it's people need to give these Officers a fair chance at defending their actions, especially when the Department has already cleared them of any wrong doing over half a year ago.
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" Seven police officers were indicted Thursday on murder or attempted murder charges in shootings on a bridge that left two people dead during the chaotic aftermath of Hurricane Katrina."

" On Thursday, state District Judge Raymond Bigelow gave the indicted officers 24 hours to surrender. He said there would be no bond for the four accused of first-degree murder, which carries a possible death sentence. For the other officers, the bond will be $100,000 per count, Bigelow said."

"As a wise man once said, a district attorney can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich," said Franz Zibilich, attorney for officer Robert Faulcon, who faces two counts of first-degree murder and four counts of attempted first-degree murder. "They heard only one side of the story."

On Tuesday morning, January 2, 2007, tentatively at 10:00 am, the recently indicted officers will turn themselves in at Central Lockup at Perdido and South White Streets, to begin the legal process of vindication.

I am requesting that EVERYONE, civilian, military, sheriff's office, federal agents, state and local police, and especially NOPD, come to the area of South Broad and Tulane Avenue, before 10:00am, the earlier, the better. We will begin lining the streets from Central Lockup at South White and Perdido Street, up South White, to Tulane Avenue, then on Tulane towards South Carrollton Avenue. The officers will follow this route in and I am requesting that EVERYONE wishing to show their support for these officers and for ALL of the Public Safety and First Responders, come and line the streets as these officers come to surrender themselves. This request is not just for law enforcement, but for ALL CITIZENS who disapprove of their public safety officers being treated in this fashion. Just get in line as you arrive, wherever there is space.

If you have a uniform, it is up to you to decide whether to wear it. If you wish to identify yourself as to your affiliation or organization, through other clothing, signs, or other means, that, too, will be up to you. I only ask that you show up, and behave with the same dignity that our brother officers have, and will continue, to demonstrate.

For my NOPD brothers and sisters, I would remind everyone who is on duty to remain in your assigned areas of responsibility, and maintain the public safety as you would do everyday. For those on duty whose assignments allow them the latitude, and for those off- duty, I would only ask that you show up.

There is no issue facing ANY Public Safety Officer, law enforcement or medical professional, more serious than an indictment for Murder for doing your job.

NOW is the time to show our brother officers that we are there, we will not forget, we will not stop and WE ARE ONE NOPD.



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[info]robzas

December 31 2006, 15:17:58 UTC 5 years ago

My fears

I just hope that everyone is treated to a fair trial. That only with evidence should these officers be found innocent or guilty, and not the whims of others. I would like to add that I find what judge bigelow did was a sign that this trial will not be on the up and up. I really believe it should be tried in another state that would be impartial and that could give these officers the opportunity to be innocent unless they are proved guilty. I myself would be a bad juryist due to the fact that I was here thru the storm and am definitely biased. My thought towards fixing a broken system is to subcontract orleans parish out to harry lee. His history on the intergrity of the jefferson parish police force has always appeared above board. My best wishes go to those who are the true victims of the danzinger bridge incident and hope they find justice.

[info]gutterboylive

December 31 2006, 16:56:25 UTC 5 years ago

My thoughts:

1) Eddie Jordan is a dick.

2) The investigation was performed by the FBI, not the D.A. Jordan just threw more fuel on the fire.

3) If nothing else, support their right to innocence until PROVEN guilty. The City of New Orleans and it's people need to give these Officers a fair chance at defending their actions, especially when the Department has already cleared them of any wrong doing over half a year ago.

They are innocent until proven guilty. But a grand jury has ruled that there's enough evidence for them to stand trial, like any other citizens. Surely you don't mean to suggest that there should be a different standard of law for police officers.

4) You will sit in prison until the trial is OVER, regardless of verdict.

Huh? People denied bond, or who can't afford bond, do this ALL THE TIME. It's the way the law works.

[info]jane_doe_

December 31 2006, 17:57:15 UTC 5 years ago

well said.

[info]bitsofmymind

December 31 2006, 20:20:44 UTC 5 years ago

Very well said.

[info]headhouse

December 31 2006, 23:15:15 UTC 5 years ago

I think (I'm just guessing) that his point is that denying bond in this case is unfair. I get this from wiki: "Under current law, a defendant has the right to bail unless there is sufficient reason not to grant it. The main reasons for refusing bail according to the Bail Act 1976 are that there are substantial grounds for believing that the defendant (1) will abscond; (2) will commit further offences whilst on bail; or (3) will interfere with witnesses."

1) They stayed during the storm, they still live there (don't they?), and they're (presumably) turning themselves in. I don't see a huge flight risk here. 2) I don't see a risk of "further offences," either. Though it looks good for the DA to imply that, if he's calling them "rabid dogs." 3) The NOPD has a history of that, but this is a high-profile case, and anyway if withness tampering is going to happen, it doesn't need to be done personally by these guys, so denying bail is pointless.

[info]scribe_kayla

January 1 2007, 01:21:48 UTC 5 years ago

Bail is very, very rare in a first degree murder case in Louisiana. It happens sometimes, for the reasons you mention above, but it's usually set pretty high (often $500,000 or more). The defendants' lawyers can request a bail hearing, where they can present evidence and witnesses, and then it's up to the judge. But there's no evidence to suggest that these police officers are being treated any differently than other people charged with murder, at least when it comes to bail.

[info]headhouse

January 1 2007, 02:08:33 UTC 5 years ago

Are they facing first degree charges? Jesus, I didn't catch that. *googles definition* Yeah, I guess Crazy Eddie would be willing to take a swing at that.

Still, denying police officers bail is something of a message.

Yeesh. Bet this'll do wonders for the police academy's recruitment rate.

[info]franandzoe

December 31 2006, 18:34:41 UTC 5 years ago

i agree the police officers should be treated fairly, but unfortunately "fairly" in new orleans is above and beyond what a normal person would have gone through had they been arrested, especially during the storm. i think we all know what happens to people once they have been arrested in new orleans, and getting lost in the system with no trial sitting in jail for over a year even on misdemeanor charges is what happened to people apprehended just before and during the hurricane. how about rallying together for these victims?

the fact that these police men stayed here during the storm doesn't mean anything. they were doing their jobs by staying here. o wait! maybe we should thank them since so many other police officers decided to take some cars and head up to baton rouge and abandon their city. well, at least they didn't brutally murder anyone.

eddie jordan is a fuck, but not because of this, the fact that the department cleared the officers and we should blindly accept this is laughable. i mean do i even have to explain that one to you?

we don't know if they were "just doing their jobs" thats what the trial is for.

[info]headhouse

December 31 2006, 23:05:03 UTC 5 years ago

The prisoners-during-katrina issue is a separate one, which has gotten separate posts in here. Does the fact that they got screwed over mean that these guys should be screwed over as well?

maybe we should thank them since so many other police officers decided to take some cars and head up to baton rouge and abandon their city.

Actually, thanking some cops wouldn't be too far out of line.

[info]franandzoe

December 31 2006, 18:36:36 UTC 5 years ago

wow, my post did sound cold. i *really* don't think that all officers in new orleans are bad. i know some police that are quite good people. but it pisses me off when people want to automatically assume that just because you are wearing a badge that you can do no wrong.

[info]hazeablaze

December 31 2006, 18:55:50 UTC 5 years ago

your post was very much needed - and warranted.
i guess shooting handicapped boys in the back is no big deal.
what an absolute shame and embarrassment for this city.

[info]rabmatty

December 31 2006, 20:16:00 UTC 5 years ago

so if a handicapped person is committing a crime, and deadly force is needed, you shouldn't shoot them?

[info]robzas

December 31 2006, 21:23:41 UTC 5 years ago

Remember when on st charles a mentally ill patient was surronded by police officers with guns drawn. Now I will agree he was swinging a knife around but instead of shooting to incapacitate the crowd unleashed a volley of bullets. The man was taken down like a rabid animal. The senior citizen that was drunk in the french quarter leaning against a trash can. Physically attacked and taken down by at least 4 police officers with a police officer on horseback trying to shield the incident from a cameraman. These are just incidents caught on camera.

[info]headhouse

December 31 2006, 22:59:58 UTC 5 years ago

We had this debate already. Shooting to incapacitate is dumb and dangerous to both bystanders and officers. Pls for to go back and find the entry.

[info]dark_law

January 1 2007, 13:48:59 UTC 5 years ago

According to louisiana state law, no peace officer can "shoot to wound".

period. It is illegal, immoral, and unfair. Those officers did what they had to do to protect the lives of others on St Charles.

This case? All I'm asking for is a fair trial. Support your own god damned local law enforcement. That's all. I'm not asking for you to give them leniancy or automatic innocence - jsut a fair trial, that's all.

[info]robzas

January 4 2007, 13:54:40 UTC 5 years ago

Don't they have non lethal options that could have been used on st. charles. It wasn't that they didn't have time to come up with a less then lethal option.

[info]dark_law

January 4 2007, 16:56:35 UTC 5 years ago

They USED less than lethal options MANY times before shooting but the 'video' didnt show that part. He was OC'd several times which only made him more aggressive. You can not OC/Pepper spray an individual that is bipolar or schizophrenic. It rarely solves it, just makes the problem worse because they are scared, can't breathe, or want to attack moreso.

And if you are speaking of Tasers, which WOULD have solved that without bloodshed, help US get them. Write the mayor, the Chief, someone.

I am an avid fan of the Taser, aka the M26. It saves lives, and reduces injuries. Look at the stats. It also cuts down on OFFICER injury and death by as much as 80%. We as NOPD can only do so much with the tools we are equipped with. It is not a desire to shoot everyone that is dangerous or has a weapon; we have that right, but then we have to live with taking a life. Can you sleep peaceful at night if you had to kill a person, even if they were trying to kill you? It rattles your head a bit but you, the puclic, expect us to protect YOU and ourselves but we are simply poorly equipped.

A police tax in THIS city? To equip us with Tasers? better equipment? cameras? Not in this lifetime...

[info]babysprite

December 31 2006, 19:49:52 UTC 5 years ago

I support the defendant's rights to a fair and impartial trial. They have chosen by their vocations, to uphold the law and therefore, they deserve to be treated according to the law. I do not wish for any more negative publicity to fall upon my home town or any part of it. Enough is enough.
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[info]franandzoe

December 31 2006, 21:05:54 UTC 5 years ago

i think the question is whether or not deadly force was needed. hence the trial.

[info]infrogmation

December 31 2006, 21:41:07 UTC 5 years ago

I refuse your urging to prejudge the case

As I was not a witness to whatever went on, I am too ignorant to offer "support" to anyone.

I support completely the rights of the accused to a fair trial.

I hope the trial will determine the facts with accuracy and swift justice.

[info]interdictor

January 1 2007, 07:36:04 UTC 5 years ago

Re: I refuse your urging to prejudge the case

Ditto.

[info]dark_law

January 1 2007, 13:52:11 UTC 5 years ago

Re: I refuse your urging to prejudge the case

As I was not there either - all I heard was the screaming and gun shots ont he radio as it crackled through the broken air waves. I am only asking for your support for a fair trial. I am obviously going to side with my brother officers, but as a citizen, as someone who does not wear the badge and sacrifice your life everyday, I only ask you offer them your support in a fair trial, regardless of past prejudices aginst the NOPD as a whole. These officers are not the culmination of 20 years of corruption.

They did what they thought they had to ina split second's time.
Place yourself there for a minute, you don't know what you'd do when faced with armed renegades. I'm leaving the judgement up to the jury, but I want everyone to adhere to the constitutional fact that they are innocent until PROVEN guilty, which I somehow doubt will happen.

[info]jdquintette

January 1 2007, 19:27:13 UTC 5 years ago

Re: I refuse your urging to prejudge the case

They did what they thought they had to ina split second's time.

Sounds like you've already made up your mind. I prefer to wait for and actual trial, with testimony from witnesses.

Unfortunately, there's a chance we'll never know what really happened. As you and others point out, there's some major political posturing coming out of the D.A.'s office. There's also a sizable constituency who feel that we should 'support our local law enforcement officers' regardless.

I don't see the point in that, anymore than I would unhesitatingly 'support the president' in everything he gets it into his head to undertake. I support public servants when they carry out their duties according to law. If there's any question of wrongdoing, I support a speedy, just and proper investigation or trial, whichever is warranted. But I'm not going to go and march in support of those guys when I have no idea what actually happened.


[info]seide

December 31 2006, 21:50:04 UTC 5 years ago

I sincerely hope they receive a fair trial. I hope that's possible.

[info]catscan72

January 2 2007, 03:34:28 UTC 5 years ago

I am suprised I didn't see 'officer' David Gains name on there with the other 'suspected' criminals of NOPD! It is a very broken system down in Orleans Parish, hell, its almost as bad all the other Parishes in La.
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